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I have an activity (Claim Denial,) here I'm trying get the count of activities got paid after the Claim Denial,. payment happened before Denial and after denial as well, but I need to consider the first payment made after the Denial,  it can be many payment as well and payment activities we have 5 different type. also payment span should be >= 60.

 

days between(First Denial date , first payment date(after the denial)>=60

payment A- 01/01/2021

Denial- 02/01/2021

Payment B-03/01/2021

 

PU_FIRST works for First Denial but for Payment if we use PU_FIRST it will look for the Payment A but it should take Payment B date

Hi Silvakumar,

I believe this is a use case focused on checking whether the claim is getting paid after a denial.

 

If I understand correctly, you want to count paid activities after Claim Denial, being Payment Date at least 60 days after the Claim Denial.

 

On a case level, it should be:

PU_COUNT(

CASETABLE, ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,

DAYS_BETWEEN( PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Claim Denial'), ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME) >= 60 AND ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Payment'

)

 

I`m considering you have an activity called 'Payment'. If you don't have it, replace it with a similar column/logic to identify a payment in the activity table.

If you want to have a single KPI, just wrap same formula within a SUM()

 

Best,

Gabriel


In case this information is displayed within the "regular" data it could also be sufficient to simply use CASE WHEN table1.field1 > table2.field2 THEN ...ELSE ... END

 

Best,

Kevin


Hi Silvakumar,

I believe this is a use case focused on checking whether the claim is getting paid after a denial.

 

If I understand correctly, you want to count paid activities after Claim Denial, being Payment Date at least 60 days after the Claim Denial.

 

On a case level, it should be:

PU_COUNT(

CASETABLE, ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,

DAYS_BETWEEN( PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Claim Denial'), ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME) >= 60 AND ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Payment'

)

 

I`m considering you have an activity called 'Payment'. If you don't have it, replace it with a similar column/logic to identify a payment in the activity table.

If you want to have a single KPI, just wrap same formula within a SUM()

 

Best,

Gabriel

I want get the each case in how many days it got paid. with this formula PU_COUNT(

CASETABLE, ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,

DAYS_BETWEEN( PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Claim Denial'), ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME) >= 60 AND ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Payment'

) i have payment activities (payemntA, PaymentB, Payment C etc), I'm not able fix this is my activity. days_between first claim denial date to first payment activity date but that first payment activity is after the claim denial.


Hi @sivakumar.sivap14 

I would approach this differently. I would write a CASE WHEN PU_FIRST(CASE_TABLE, ACTIVITY_TABLE.ACTIVITY, ACTIVITY LIKE 'Payment%') > PU_FIRST(CASE_TABLE, ACTIVITY_TABLE.ACTIVITY, ACTIVITY LIKE 'Denial%') THEN CALC_THROUGHPUT(...) ELSE NULL END

 

Check if this works


Hi Sivakumar,

"each case in how many days it got paid." this should be fine if you know exactly which Payment activity you want to compare with (as you mentioned, you could have multiple payments after the denial). Is it against the first payment that occurs after claim denial? Is it the average time of the payments that occur after the claim denial or another specific logic?

Getting the days between 2 activities can be achieved with the CALC_THROUGHPUT() formula, but you first need to establish

the right logic.

 

Example:

Case No. 123456789

Payment A- 01/01/2021

Denial- 02/01/2021

Payment B-03/01/2021

Payment C - 04/01/2021

Payment D - 05/01/2021

 

What would be the "how many days it got paid"? (i.e. Is it from the denial to the last Payment, an average of these values or to the first?)


Denial to first payment which is Payment B-03/01/2021 for this case


In this case you can leverage SOURCE()- TARGET() and set source as denial and Payment as TARGET()

Check out this documentation: https://confluence.celonis.com/display/PQLdevelopment/SOURCE+-+TARGET


 

Source and target only work if the very next activity after Denial is the Payment (it also generates an error in case you are trying to combine with other calculations that are not included on SOURCE/TARGET).

 

Thanks Sivakumar, the following formula will do the work

 

DAYS_BETWEEN(

PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Claim Denial'),

PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Payment' AND 

DAYS_BETWEEN (PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Claim Denial'),

PU_FIRST(CASETABLE,ACTIVITYTABLE.EVENTTIME,ACTIVITYTABLE.ACTIVITY = 'Payment'))>=60)

)

 


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